"Thanks," Fred replies, and tries for a smile herself. It comes easier than she anticipates.

She takes the offered seat, folding her hands in her lap for the moment.

"Exactly," she says, "And we have those too, witches, I mean, but I haven't exactly had a lot of contact with many. Demons, yeah, sure, but I don't think any of them are capable of something like this. Whatever it is."